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The Power of Good Conversation, with Jefferson Fisher

History &
Social Policy

A game-changing framework for transforming how we talk – and, more importantly, how we listen

‘Embracing the knowledge in The Next Conversation will vastly improve your life.’ – Andrew Huberman, creator of the Huberman Lab Podcast

‘ The Next Conversation gives you the tools to change your life, one conversation at a time.’ – Mel Robbins, bestselling author and host of the Mel Robbins Podcast

In a time when conversations often feel more divisive and polarised than ever, knowing how to communicate effectively has never been more essential. 

Jefferson Fisher has built a global following by addressing these very challenges. As a trial lawyer turned communication expert, his short, practical videos have helped millions master the art of effective conversation. To mark the publication of his debut book The Next Conversation, he came to Intelligence Squared in June 2025 to share his game-changing framework for transforming how we talk – and, more importantly, how we listen.

The Next Conversation is set to be one of the most impactful books on communication in years. 

Live at Union Chapel, he unpacked his insights and answered your questions.

 

Speakers for the motion

  • Jefferson Fisher

    Trial Lawyer, Author, and Key Note Speaker

Chair

  • Jenny Kleeman

    Award winning journalist, broadcaster and documentary film-maker

Speakers are subject to change.

Speakers

Speaker

Jefferson Fisher

Trial Lawyer, Author, and Key Note Speaker

Jefferson Fisher is a trial lawyer, author, and keynote speaker. Through his practical approach to effective communication strategies, he has amassed millions of followers around the world, teaching them how to argue less and talk more.
Chair

Jenny Kleeman

Award winning journalist, broadcaster and documentary film-maker

Journalist, author and broadcaster. She has reported for Channel 4's foreign affairs series Unreported World and BBC One's Panorama, and was a launch presenter on Times Radio. She is the author of books including Sex Robots and Vegan Meat and The Price of Life: In Search of What We're Worth and Who Decides.